Coverage 10m2 Per Litre Satin Matt Mega The tough One-pack coating. Also does anyone have any advice re: American Oak and its durability or hardness? Bona Traffic Anti-Slip. If, you apply the proper coverage 350-400 sq. My contractor is telling me there will be adhesion problems if using water based but I'm worried about off-gassing from oil based products. But, my family is doing a custom build home and we have the option of engineered hardwoods or site-finished oak (assuming/hoping white oak, plan to clarify if we go that way). It's difficult to get the 350-400 sq. It looks like this thread has been dormant for a few months, so apologies if I'm posting this in the wrong place (I'm new to the forum). We will let that cure for 4 or 5 days before applying a cover to the floor for 3 weeks while renovations continue, and then applying two coats of water based stain. Update: We fired our contractor and hired another flooring company. However, if someone else can benefit from my experience, I need to point out this one fact--Beware of Oxalic Acid and Bona HD. I will bet my eye-teeth that the stain used was not compatible with the Bona system. My next step is calling Bona today...they of course may tell me what I want to hear. It is a tricky system that requires HEAVY training (at the installer's expense btw...which is why only a few people go to get training). Using cutting edge polymer technology, Bona Traffic HD is designed to provide very high resistance to scratches, spills, scuffs, and other stains. Bona Traffic HD is the world’s toughest and fastest drying lacquer. Product information Technical Details. Significantly outperforms all urethane finishes, including Bona Traffic, in durability at 24 hours. PS @drewmich Not sure if you ever got an answer, but that is almost certainly catalyzation failure - the floor is clouding because it did not fully crosslink. The wood floors we have now didn't look great when we moved in 5 years ago, and I have not noticed any major changes (from dog or baby activity) in our time in the apartment, but I have NO idea what type of materials were used. Bona Traffic Natural seals and protects wood floors while preserving the appearance of raw wood. And Minwax stain doesn't like to play well with others. Bona Traffic HD (high-end 2 component) is comparable to Loba 2K Supra AT (high-end 2 component product). 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD. Will not change colour over time, allowing for easy touch-up, Exceptional build with excellent flow and leveling, Available in Commercial Satin, Commercial Semi-Gloss, and Commercial Extra Matte. ft. You get the orange peel effect. Any one have any ideas or experience with this type of "clouding" problem. If, you apply the proper coverage 350-400 sq. Bona Traffic hardwood floor finish is a 2-component (part A is mixed with part B prior to application) waterborne hardwood floor finish which goes on clear and remains clear for the life of the floor. It's difficult to get the 350-400 sq. It seems in the flooring world, folks seem to blame the products more. Coverage rate is 350-400sqft per gallon. We moved 2 years later and now, almost 10 years later, I'm finally about to install cork w Traffic Natural in my new kitchen. The reason I wanted to do 2 coats of Traffic HD, was the container comes with the right amount for 2 coats. For this reason a satin is a better option than 'matte'. It is close to our previous Bona Traffic HD matte finish - but it seems even flatter. Is leaving the kitties in the basement which is of course below the main floor an option during this 4 day process? Over budget and over schedule but there ya go. We like the HD best because it is the only member of the Traffic family that comes in the Matte sheen level. ft. per gallon; drying time - 2-3 hours; colour - milky white (wet), Significantly outperforms all urethane finishes, including Bona Traffic , in durability at 24 hours, Unsurpassed scuff, scratch and chemical resistance at full cure, Very low VOCs – less than 125 Very low odor, Clear and colorlesss, which highlights the true colour of stained or natural wood floors. Bona Traffic HD has a very good quality leveling agent. I would put money none of these failed bona floors were properly sanded or sealed with the proper sealer after staining (which the instructions clearly state to do). Bona has their own stain line....their stain should have been matched to their finish. We had used Bona Traffic HD matte on the previous 2-1/4" red oak floor we had down - but had to completely strip and start over due to a water damage issue (than God for good HO insurance. When the wood matters - Bona Traffic HD. Overview Bona Traffic HD is one of the world's toughest and fastest drying lacquers for wooden floors exposed to extreme wear, allowing full traffic to be resumed in just 12 hours. So the Bona Traffic HD Extra Matte finish is very low sheen or NO Sheen is a better descriptor. I am a retired custom home builder and we recently redid our first floor flooring. And yes, Bona offers training sessions but the professionals need to pay for them/travel to them to get the training. Thanks a bunch!! ... Traffic HD The toughest two-pack coating. ONe finish that I have used in the homes of a few customers and in my own dining room is Bona's Traffic HD. I have not drawn this option yet. Also my GC said none of his customers have ever left to have their floors done, which was suggested by our floor guy. I'm liking the sectional move, and understand the family not appreciating it. You can walk over it with socked feet after 3-4 hours. We are getting a wood inspector. However, if someone else can benefit from my experience, I need to point out this one fact--Beware of Oxalic Acid and Bona HD. Bona Traffic HD gets 5 stars, because it really is that good. Bona Traffic HD Extra Matte is a floor finish for hardwood floor owners with an uncompromising attitude towards durability, being green and looking gorgeous. Pull the leather chair around so about 1/3 of its back can be seen through the entry. You might try the flip and see what you think. Bona Traffic HD Description. If I did just one, that would be half went to waste. We hired a professional contractor to refinish 700 square feet of wood flooring, including staining it with Minwax and letting the stain dry at least 24 hours between each coat and before applying top coast (much longer than the minimum dry period for this Minwax product). ft. coverage with a T-bar. KEY BENEFITS. If, you apply too thin of a coat 500-600 sq. Almost always improper prep and we own up to it (sometimes compatibility, but still our fault). Coverage 10m2 Per Litre Satin Extra Matt Traffic Original The tough two-pack coating. Coats: 2 coats needed. ft. per gallon, it will level out. $111.45. @CancorkFloorInc Is it possible to use a water based sealant like Bona AFTER bleaching red oak floors? What kind of ceiling fixture is in the TV room that could switch out with the chandy? In any finishing business, nobody gets it right 100% of the time, and if they are good, they should have people where it went wrong and the installer made it right. Bona also claims that Traffic HD is stronger and more protective than regular Traffic, but they don’t provide any data or measurements to back that up, so we don’t know how verifiable that is. I cleaned with a wet paper towel, then with Bona Hardwood Floor cleaner - did nothing, i emailed Bona today and will call tomorrow. I just wanted to tell you that you do not want to trust the way the flooring contractor has " always done it" trust what the manufacturer tells you to do and Bona absolutely recommends a sealer or their stain, which includes it own sealer before any kind of top coat. This person does all of the contractors floors and he says he hasn’t had any calls regarding problems with what he uses. Oh gosh, I had not heard that, but good to know, especially with a young child in the house. I I thought the extra matte is less sheen but this thread is making me think differently. The other issues can be installer error with Bona. It shows the weirdest things...like bare foot prints look SHINIER than the floor. My friend just got the floors of her nee home recoated with Bona Traffic HD in matte. Bona Traffic HD™ is for hardwood floor owners with an uncompromising attitude towards durability, being green and looking beautiful. Hello. I love the look of this timber... also advice on something that is harder but looks similar? If you have any thoughts on the above, please let me know. But the second coat of stain has NOTHING to bond to. Sisal could work year round. Some of these high end finishes bond BETTER if they only have a few hours between coats rather than 24+ hours (Loba finishes LOVE to have a recoat between 8hrs - 23 hours...they are SUPER grabby in that time period). The Bona Hardwood Floor Care System has everything you need for easy and safe cleaning of your hardwood floors. Here's the floor today: Thanks @Menegazzo1... that shine level looks great... and your floors look wonderful...what timber is that? Traffic is not, however, the easiest finish to use or apply. It is greatly appreciated. This is 100% on the builder. The house is almost finished and my hands are tied. Traffic HD Bona Traffic HD & Hardener 4.95ltr. Approx Coverage 10-12m 2 /ltr . The best advice I can give anyone here - get someone who really understands these products and is either specifically trained by the company, or understands how they work for real. I'm not @Cancork... but I may be able to answer your question... which would be to suggest that, under normal circumstances with proper application of a prescribed & tested bleaching process, I can't see any reason why you'd have "adhesion problems" using a water-based finish over bleached red oak... however it would be advisable to make sure all of the chemical residue, or "salts" as they're referred to, have been lightly sanded and vacuumed. Used in hotels, restaurants and airports worldwide, where short downtime … SKU: WT155918001, WT155318001, WT155916001 Availability: Usually Ships in 24 hours Mon – Fri: 8:00 am – 6:00 pm Sat: 9:30 am – 3:30 pm Sunday – closed, Mon – Fri: 9:30 am- 6:30 pm Sat: 9:30 am – 3:30 pm Sunday – closed, 1 US gallon (3.79 L); luster - Extra Matte, Satin or Semi-Gloss; coverage - 350-400 sq. More stain is NOT a good thing. Here's why: Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). @Daniel Berlin Thank you for the summary above. Bona Traffic HD's 125 VOC is a 40% reduction compared to the regular Bona Traffic, and is less than half of the most strict laws that regulate floor finishes (Southern California's CARB). Undecided still, as my entry hallway is rartner narrow and I'm concerned parquetry might make it look too 'busy'. These are the big boys with the MASSIVE price tags. Known as a durable, fast-drying finish, Bona Traffic HD is a GreenGuard Gold Certified low VOC option that holds up well to traffic, kids, pets, and spills. Not sure. Call to order on 020 8501 6730. ONe finish that I have used in the homes of a few customers and in my own dining room is Bona's Traffic HD. But, the difference in price is fairly insignificant. Lay out the shape with blue painter's tape. It's too late now, they have already applied the oil based and we don't have time to start over, not to mention that the wood can't be sanded down any further. Also ask them for a reference for someone whose floor failed. Is 2 coats of natural primer (5 hrs apart), drying overnight, then one coat of Traffic HD in the morning, then 5hrs later a second final coat. NEW FULL CURE TIME! Hi Ritevibe, I am very happy with bona now but there was a lot of trial and error. 3 Green-Minded Questions to Ask, 5 Questions to Ask Before Installing a Barn Door, Curb Appeal Feeling a Little Off? They are all slight variations on the same chemistry. No issues with any of my customers that have active families with dogs! Can be used to protect untreated wood as well as prefinished parquet. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. We have a small, but active dog and a toddler, and plan to be in this house a LONG time, so I am concerned about durability and longevity. If more than one coat of stain is used, then adhesion failures (like yours) go WAY WAY UP! Is there a difference between the Streetshoe Satin and the Bona Satin? Can you use Bona wood floor finish over a bare wood floor? You don't mention the bleaching process planned... and our experience has been extensive over the years... and we use a two component liquid wood bleach system. I wouldn't be pleased at all! I just know that I listened to a guy who "has always done it this way" and said not to listen to those who say the wood changes color and now I have brand new white oak stairs that have an ugly yellow cast to them. I just had my floors scraped, stained with Duraseal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD in Satin were applied. Drying time can be retarded by adding up to 4% Bona Retarder [page 46]. He didn't mention HD as an option either. Bona Traffic HD costs a little more than the basic Bona Traffic. He is coming tomorrow to apply a third coat. Refinisher has 20+ years experience with Bona and clearly knew his stuff and cares. Reading this tonight is a dream come true. I'm sorry to say but your flooring professional shouldn't have mixed products. Mega Gloss Clear 5L FE103505F Bona Add £102.00 inc. VAT. I was told the problem was my dogs. GlitsaMax and Bona Traffic HD are the same - both hardeners are HDI + HDI based polymers. Parts A and B are sold together and separately, so if you’re sold on Bona, make sure you get both.. Could anybody with dogs tell me how your Bona Traffic HD Satin holding up? Email me and I'll provide contact info. If you can, go with oil based. Widely used in hotels, restaurants and airports, where maximum durability and a short downtime is essential. Next step is to get the Bona rep out to see what is going on. Bona Traffic HD Anti-Slip surpasses the P3 rating needed for staircases in domestic situations whilst giving excellent performance with regard to wear, scuff and scratch resistance. I work a lot with the same types of products (2k urethanes, etc). An apartment sized sectional might fit that area. Bona: Coverage: Approx 8-10m 2 per litre: Application: Roller (Microfibre/fleece) Drying Time: Touch dry and ready to recoat in 2–3 hours @ 20°C: Coats: 1 coat of Bona Waterborne Primer, then 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD. Bona Traffic HD one of the toughest and most durable lacquers available for wooden floors. I don't want to hurt the product ratings by giving them anything less. I have used the traffic version in satin in the old place and after 5 years it's been perfect. Why not use a duraseal/Loba/rubio type finish?? Utter. Okay. I feel for ya. I'm currently in middle of sanding my floors and have selected Bona traffic HD. Bona Traffic HD - 1 gallon container Comes complete with hardener. 'Ease of laminate' indicates to me that they didn't try very hard to take care of it, which is a pretty good endorsement for the finish! Premium price for low quality product. Bona does NOT DO that after 1 year with dogs. I don't want to hurt the product ratings by giving them anything less. Let the floor cure for 3 days, moved back in but did not put down rugs for 2 weeks, to ensure the floor was solid. I was one of those people who sung Bona Traffic's praises after I fixed my mistake with an initial matte floor. Bona stain - (1) Coat - (2) coats of Bona oil sealer ... (1) final coat of Bona Traffic HD Extra Matte. The finish is about 5 weeks old ... was allowed to cure properly ... Hi, we have to pick a stain color for our red oak 5 inch floors. I refinished my 40 year old oak floors last month - Duraseal stain, Bona Traffic HD Satin - 2 coats + sealer. Bona Traffic. It allows for full traffic to be resumed just 12 hours after application, and was developed for application on large surfaces. We like the HD best because it is the only member of the Traffic family that comes in the Matte sheen level. I personally am not a fan of rustic or matt looking floors...i prefer something with more lustre or shine...but not way too glossy. Looks like Satin it might be, but I will take your advice and go visit the Bona showroom to see first hand. You have adhesion failure. The product was on the floor at the time of the scratch, but in this image the film has been removed from the floor. (This is not Bona's fault.) It goes on easy, dries quickly, offers 400+ square feet of coverage per gallon and is a certified low-VOC product safe for kids, the elderly, pets and everyone else. The floor guy came today and told us basically to get read of the dogs. I started this thread in 2013 (wow how time flies!) In other words, Bona is being disingenuous when they claim their products are suitable for residential use. I used Bona Kemi Naturale on new cork floors in 2007 and _loved_ it... and we had 2 large slobbery dogs who never managed to damage it. Bona R850T provides outstanding adhesion to a variety of surfaces, and allows for the natural movement of wood flooring. Please tell me that I didn’t just spend thousands for a finish that will not wear properly. Finish with excellent durability and reliable performance on wooden floors in highly trafficked public locations. My opinion (and I've remodeled numerous houses including ones with hardwood floors) is that Bona is just not a very good product. @conniekerlin do you know what stain color your friends floors are? It also has the advantage of being very fast-drying, allowing businesses and other public places to coat their floors with an absolute minimum of downtime. That should give you a visual idea that you can lay a tape measure on. Matte is a difficult level to live with. Bona Traffic HD is for hardwood floor owners with an uncompromising attitude towards durability, being green and looking beautiful. Yikes. Wooden flooring at its very best. Bona Traffic HD Commercial Semi-Gloss 4.5 out of 5 stars 116. We are seriously considering going with the wood-look tile just to avoid the headache of picking the ever-elusive "perfect" stain/finish and the eventual disappointment of marred floors. • Supreme finish for commercial areas. 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