76 likes. Most of the mountain is a challenging hike. The tongue picks microscopic airborne particles and gases from the air. The 10.5 mile Tongue Mountain Range Trail is a popular hiking destination in the Lake George Wild Forest of the southeastern Adirondacks. They enjoy the shelter in the wooded areas but also enjoy basking in the sun on exposed rocks. In the Adirondacks, the snakes also can be found on Tongue Mountain and other spots around Lake George. The trail features many spectacular views as well as two lean to shelters for backpackers. I needed to hike the Tongue Mountain Range, a peninsula that juts into Lake George in the eastern Adirondack Park, for a guidebook I was writing. They are also entirely absent in Glens Falls (where I live). Slippery leaves don't boost confidence. It’s a Smelly Tongue. We hiked the loop clockwise. Split Rock Mountain on the “Adirondack Coast” of Lake Champlain is known as a place where the Timber Rattlesnake (Crotalus Horridus) enjoys an almost perfect habitat. This was a great trail! They are the largest venomous snake in New York State, so you should be extra cautious while traversing this area. Incredibly slow going on downhills. You are the top of the first mountain in this loop hike, First Peak. We hiked this trail on 9/6/20 in a clockwise direction, and the trail was in great condition. Everything I’ve read indicates that “ rocky outcrops and open grassy areas with … The hike out is along the water, however we were getting tired and just wanted it to be done. Then you'll gradually ascend the southern end of the Tongue Range over 3 nice peaks with great views over the lake below. As they stick their tongues out, what they are really doing is taking in a deep breath. Harder than expected (from some Catskills 35ers and ADK 46ers). Beautiful views though, just incredible! But, you could also park at the northwest pond parking area, which is a little before the tongue mountain parking, and has a sign for! "We KNOW so, a Ranger removed a nice 3 footer at our request from our site (Turtle 24) yesterday !". My GPS read 14.8 which is different than other reviewers- not sure why the discrepancy but it really is an arduous hike. Large specimens can reportedly weigh as much as 4.5 kg (9.9 lb). Some downslope areas are dangerous as hell. Lower Tongue and NW Bay loop. Elapsed time was 7.5 hours. "It's kind of a critical time for mountain biking." Females give birth to 4 to 21 young in late summer; the young are marked similarly to adults, but colors are brighter. There were some sketchy sections. Tongue Range Notes: All six of the following peaks are a part of the Tongue Mountain range on the west shore of Lake George. This is a popular and easily reached lookout over northern Lake George. Two people all day excluding parking lot. There is a wonderful anecdote about Appy taking a group of women to his camp on Turtle Bay, ans when it came time to get back in the boat, he informed them that there was a rattlesnake … Each complete with deadly fangs, these snakes feed on mammals and toads, with larger snakes even dine on animals as large as a prairie dog. This snake is commonly 3- to 4 feet long and rather plump compared to other kingsnakes. We were planning on out and back but did the loop and cut off a few miles with a bushwhack out (like a prior reviewer) because we really didn’t have the return trip in us. These are large snakes some approaching 5 feet (1.5 m) in length. Want to be a registered member? Be aware of rattlesnakes in this area. A great hike on a gorgeous fall day. I followed the mileage I’d gone on my phone to know I was at the end, and I had gone over, what looked like 3 peaks. and 11 minutes. Remember that in NH, Fish and Game can and will charge you for some or all expense(s) incurred if you need to be rescued. I wore trail runners; my wife ankle high boots. We offer quality and a variety of reptiles and amphibians throughout the United States. DEC said that rattlesnakes were wiped out at many New York locations, killed for the bounties once paid for dead rattlesnakes, or because they were considered a pest, or they were taken for the exotic pet trade. Here you have the choice of continuing straight to head right up into the mountains or head along the bay towards Montcalm Point. When the tongue slips back into its mouth, it touches a sensitive spot on the roof of the mouth called the vomeronasal organ, or Jacobson's organ. http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d...ec/tirafs.html, http://www.esf.edu/PUBPROG/brochure/snakes/snakes.htm, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265UVANce, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265yCNsJC, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265VWAjOK, http://community.webshots.com/user/anorthosite420. We hiked clockwise to fifth peak last fall and counterclockwise to first peak with a bushwhack down to the NWbay trail. Measuring from 3 to 4.5 feet or more in length, the timber rattlesnake is the largest venomous snake in New York. No sightings of snakes, just an awesome trail and views. Tongue “Mountain” is actually a series of connected peaks running nine miles along the spine of a peninsula that juts southward into the lake, with Northwest Bay on the west side, and the island-dotted Narrows on the east. I said "you think so ?" It was a lot of ups and downs today. There’s a little bit of everything on this trail- some mud, rocks, overgrowth, views, and runnable trail. We are two avid hikers in our 50’s. Two color patterns are commonly found: a light phase, which has black or dark brown crossbands on a lighter background color of yellow, brown or gray, and a dark phase, which has dark … It took us 6 hours and we recorded 10 miles. Despite their size, cryptic coloration allows them to be easily concealed. No rattlesnakes. Beautiful views of Lake George and an easy walk along the shore line. The rattlers were once hunted for bounties, which were outlawed in 1971. This organ picks up the particles collected by the tongue and sends messages to the snake's brain identifying the scent as food, enemy, mate or other object or substance. The other photos show the views down to the lake. We started late, so proceeded clockwise to tackle the 3 peaks first. Heed the rattlesnake warnings—nearly stepped on one that had just killed a chipmunk and wasn’t going to share its lunch. Popular hiking trails traverse the rugged uplands of the Tongue Mountain Range. Tip: There is a specific species of rattlesnack that only lives in the Tongue Range so be aware of this, not necessarily scared of this as they certainly are more afraid of you than you are of them. It looks PERFECT up there for them ! Dead Last > Did Not Finish > Did Not Start, We camped on Turtle #11. Mix of icy and muddy/wet today. The “flats” aren’t flat, but they aren’t difficult either; more of an expectation looking at the elevation map. Perfect hiking weather. Head along the lake towards Montcalm Point and you will return to here on the way out. I'm not sure of the reason, but it certainly seems like the area around Lake George and the Southern end of Lake Champlain is rattlesnake country. Deer Leap (3.4 miles RT, easy). Populations at Shelving Rock on the east shore of Lake George and at French Mountain were among those wiped out. Views From The Top recommends that all hikers read and familiarize themselves with the hikeSafe web site before venturing into the back country. So relax and snap a few photos. The tongue of the Rattlesnake is forked and it picks up microscopic airborne particles from the air. Mike and Cheryl here. On the way out I met a family going up who asked if I had seen any. I have no problem hiking 15 miles when the trail provides the rewards. Measured 13.1 miles (without going to the point), and 3800 ft. of elevation gain. To reach Five Mile Mountain you'll first climb the 1966 foot Brown Mountain and pass the Five Mile Mountain Lean To. Prairie Rattlesnakes den communally, but range up to 7 miles from the dens during the summer. *Rattlesnakes are found in this area! Challenging for an LG12 hike. TONGUE MOUNTAIN RANGE - Note there are many rattlesnakes in this area. Be sure to read the Terms of Service before using VFTT.org. If your current e-mail address is not the one registered with vftt, you should include the registered one in the body of your password request. If you park where it says to, next to the pond type area, from there you walk to your right to the forest preserve path. You will park at the southern trailhead for the Tongue Range, Clay Meadows next to a quarry. Young snakes may have spots of white or yellow under their chin. Hiked the trail on 9/6 and encountered one rattle snake on the trail. specializing in boa morphs/ball morphs/blue tongue skinks and anything else reptile related!!! They said "watch out on Turtle !". Access to trails on Rt 9N about 10 miles north of Bolton Landing. Great views- but with the deep, loose leaves and loose gravel,I thought the steep descents were really dangerous and more than once I wished I’d brought a hiking partner. Call or text 754-264-1591 for quickest response and to request a list as I have many more reptiles available. Not a bad idea to visit both, but be wary of rattlesnakes if leaving the trail during the hot months of summer. Tip: There is a specific species of rattlesnack that only lives in the Tongue Range so be aware of this, not necessarily scared of this as they certainly are more afraid of you than you are of them. I think they were extra pretty because it was blue skies, but I thought they were so beautiful! Rattlesnakes use their tongue, which is forked, a lot like a bloodhound uses its nose. Then you’ll walk further and see the different trails you can access. "The reason people like to go there is access to Lake Champlain," Capone said. My GPS registered 12.8 miles (All Trails indicates 14.8), but we did not do the point. link above. Stay on trail, wear high boots, watch where you put your hands! Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail is a 14.8 mile heavily trafficked loop trail located near Bolton Landing, New York that features a lake and is only recommended for very experienced adventurers. The maximum reported total length is 189.2 cm (74.5 in) (Klauber, 1956). Timber rattlers range as far south as Florida and as far west as Texas. Take exit 24 off of I-87 and head east on the Bolton Valley-Riverbank Road toward Bolton Landing. They can track the odors of their prey along the ground with their tongues thanks to a smelling organ that’s in the roof of their mouth. Be aware of timber rattlesnakes, as this area is known to have rattlers. Took a total of 6 hrs. Rattlesnakes are almost never found in the High Peaks region (I have never heard of a report). Arrive early during busy season since parking spots are limited. I am delighted to know about you and your long association with rattlesnakes on Tongue Mountain! The trail is primarily used for hiking, snowshoeing, and backpacking and is best used from April until October. Insects and mud were present, but modest. The ascent up 1st peak took longer than expected and sometimes required extra caution. Clay Meadows is 4.5 miles from the turn and the trailhead is on the east side of the road next to a rock quarry filled with water. I would recommend going clockwise and doing the mountains first- it will make the second half of the hike more enjoyable. That being said, the peaks are GORGEOUS! Start hiking down the trail which will cross the outlet of Northwest Bay shortly and then come to a trail junction. It was a sunny, hot day after a cool evening, so I was watching out and actually hoping to see a rattlesnake. Long day. In the photos the summit is shown in the upper left hand side of the photo. Plus there are sections where the descents are just not fun. Trail was not crowded and had plentiful time to look at the views. The trail tends to be dry, so it important to bring plenty of water. The largest is the Prairie Rattlesnake, capable of growing to more than 4 1/2 feet long. We had a little conversation. Explore around this area for great views out over the lake. The views were superb, and they got better from each peak (heading south). The scales are weakly keeled, and there are 25-27 dorsal scale rows at midbody. From there you will follow a nice trail around the shore of the lake to Montcalm Point where you'll have great views of the Narrrows. After you reach the first peak, there’s no more signs letting you know what summit you’re at. Didn’t see any snakes. No fee to park here. The length of the trail combined with the steep terrain makes it a challenging all day hike. 1) A myth exists that a cucumber smell comes from rattlesnakes 2) The Tongue Mountain Range is known for harboring rattlesnakes 3) The only place I have ever smelled random cucumber is the Tongue Mountain Range. I jogged for a couple of minutes every 10 min to get out of there in a reasonable time. Before we left, Brown grabbed a … I hiked the Tongue Mtn trail on Sunday. Rattlesnakes have a forked tongue that they flick up and down. Clay Meadow trail at top of Tongue Mountain Hwy (Rt.9N). I, too, questioned my solo hiking. Views from all 3 were spectacular and the descent out wasn't bad, just long. I underestimated this one. Holt (1924) mentions a large specimen caught in Montgomery County, Alabama, which had a total length of 159 cm (62.5 in) and weighed 2.5 kg (5.5 lb). In addition, mountains in the Tongue Range are a known habitat for Timber Rattlesnakes. Very well marked with new markers. MOS Reptiles. This is a long loop but very gratifying. When you get to Route 9 turn left to head north. We packed lunch, snacks and two liters of water each; bug nets, poles and a hat. Behavior of Rattlers: In the northern areas of their range, an… Rattlesnakes held in captivity live an average of 15 years. A lot of up and down and some steep sections. 13.6 miles, so be prepared. See the FAQ for instructions. Take exit 24 off of I-87 and head east on the Bolton Valley-Riverbank Road toward Bolton Landing. This does not. It should also be noted that the Tongue Mountain range is home to timber rattlers, which are poisonous snakes that can pose a serious threat to hikers. This trailhead is next to a small quarry. The 2258 foot mountain is found after hiking 3.5 miles on the Tongue Mountain Range Trail. Def think the clockwise up to fifth was easier but the views were amazing and made the effort worth it. Great trail with beautiful views. You are now at the top of French Point Mountain with more views down to the lake and across to the mountains on the remote east side. Look for nesting pairs of Peregrine Falcons & waterfowl. The other two varieties, the Massasauga and the Midget Faded Rattlesnake, will grow to around 30 inches. We loved it! The record length is 74 ½ inches. The area was one of the few places in New York where timber rattlesnakes had escaped a couple hundred years of bounty hunters, fearful farmers and pet-trade poachers. Mountain Kingsnake. I ran out of light at the end and hiked with a headlamp. Great hike, bring lots of water and enjoy the walk. According to the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center, approximately 20 to 30 bites are reported in Colorado each year. The tongue is mostly black. There are three approaches to Tongue Mountain: Fantastic views of the narrows, multiple ecosystems...it’s long, second half gets a little old. Beautiful views. I chose to go along the lake first which was a pleasant walk and made good time. Rattlesnakes can be found in many regions around Colorado with the western rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis) being most common. Brown has confirmed the reality of long, wild lifespans that hadn’t been recorded before. The summit of Five Mile Mountain is 1.7 miles from the trail that marks the beginning of the Tongue Mountain Loop (described in the overview section) and thus offers a … check out the FAQ by clicking the (Most of the leaves were down) There were a few scrambles, nicely placed stepping stones and some blow downs blocking the trail. But they are common in several areas: Tongue Mountain; Black Mountain Point (I understand they … These snakes are quite active during the day, which increases the chance of sightings. You must supply one verifiable piece of information - e-mail address or birthday - in addition to the username - for security reasons. No snakes no ice minimal mud. Toooo steep toooo much. As long as you are prepared for the long miles, it will not disappoint. And overall a great trail! This is a rugged route passing through forested terrain … 12.5 miles and a bit over 8 hours with decent breaks. A great loop hike that brings you along the shore of Lake George then over 3 small peaks on the Tongue Mountain Range. They wind around several miles of the lakefront and there are plenty of places for a swim. To start viewing messages, Numerous birds inhabit or visit the area including various waterfowl and Peregrine Falcons . Ascents to the peaks are mostly in the 10-20% grade range while the descent from the last peak (First Peak) to the lakefront is steeper and requires some scrambling. Which leads me to believe the tiny minority, that rattlesnakes do in fact give off a cucumber smell. But these snakes typically calm down quickly if held. Call NYS DEC for hiking trail maps. Nonetheless, these snakes are not aggressive, and striking is only used in defense as a last resort. The state Department of Environmental Conservation notes that timber rattlers usually are three to four and a half feet long, so the one Seth encountered was larger than average—unless his eyes deceived him. Strictly Reptiles is an online reptile store that employs some of the best reptile breeders in the industry. From here you will head down to Deer Leap Junction and head back to the car. Dogs are also able to use this trail but must be kept on leash. Our peak climbing was 30+ min miles and our pace on the “flats” was 20+ min miles. ... open the mouth, let the tongue dangle, salivate and get dirt in the mouth, roll onto its back and become motionless. 2. We did not see any rattle snakes, but we did see a small gardener snake on that flat 5 mile stretch at the end of the hike. If this is your first visit, be sure to If you have forgotten your password, please click here to send an e-mail requesting your password be reset. Highlight is French Point Mt views up and down N and S of the lake. There is not enough visual rewards for the length of this trail. Great day! Our team serves as reptile wholesale suppliers for a large number of pet stores, zoos, and even private collectors. Also, this trail was not crowded at all, but I did hike it on a Friday not Saturday or Sunday, also the parking lot is not that big, so I would try and get there early when you go. At Split Rock Mountain, they're being kept off trails down to the shoreline. If not take a left and head back towards Clay Meadows. This pretty snake is variously called the Arizona Mountain kingsnake or Sonoran Mountain kingsnake, It may be 2.5 to 4 feet long. System contains over 18 miles of marked foot trails. Unless you simply want to do a long strenuous hike, do some of the other great trails in the area. On slipping back into the mouth, the tongue touches a spot on the roof of the mouth known as the Jacobson’s organ or the vomeronasal organ. This review is for Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail. The trail markers are very easy to follow, however they are your only markers. Prairie Rattlesnakes prey on a variety of … Five Mile Mountain (7 miles RT difficult). Please include your screen name. From here if you have the energy you can head down to the lake for a dip. I used my Garmin FR 945 watch. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Super fun, tougher hike with spectacular views of Lake George and the surrounding Adirondacks done on an early September, cool, mostly sunny day. Two stars because this trail is tooooo long. Shelving Rock Mountain and Shelving Rock Falls Trail, North Tongue Mountain Range, Five Mile Mountain and Lake George Trail, Uncas Waterfall via Terzian Trail [PRIVATE PROPERTY], Shelving Rock Falls and Shelving Rock Mountain Trail, Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail. 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